Better than dispelling the ‘Christian America’ myth

You’re right. It’s a myth that America was founded as a Christian nation, in the sense we think of Christian faith today. But it *was* founded on principles utterly dependent on a Judeo-Christian worldview. One reason we are in such a mess is that we have lost our consensus about that worldview.

Yes, we should quit pretending America needs to be restored as a Christian nation. By the same token, instead of wasting your breath trying to dispel the myth, help us all by admitting a civilized society cannot be built on a secular foundation.

Give your people the tools they need to get out in their ruined communities and rebuild the walls. As we teach our neighbors the value of walking in God’s ways, they will realize the only hope for abundant life lies in the healing, transforming power of the God who sets captives free.

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8 Responses to Better than dispelling the ‘Christian America’ myth

  1. I’m not sure how you conclude a “secular foundation” is so terrible. With all the failed (and violent) theocracies in the world, I thank Good for the religious freedom (free to believe or not to believe) protected by a secular government. Narrow, exclusive viewpoints aren’t helpful in our divided world.

  2. Mark Kelly says:

    A secular foundation isn’t necessarily terrible; it’s just impossible. A society must have some way to prove beyond reasonable doubt what is right and good. Secularism can’t explain why there should be religious freedom, or any other freedom for that matter. This web booklet will explain what I mean: http://pbrd.wordpress.com

  3. Such a simple denial of secular morality, which actually exists in several philosophies. It is no less reliable than a religious morality. Secularism is exactly what determines religious freedom, the only way you’ll have it. How can people keep missing this?

    • Mark Kelly says:

      So how does a secular person

        know

      that what he or she believes is true and just actually is true and just?

      • There is justice for society and justice for individuals; both must be considered at all times, and religion tends to forget the individual, doesn’t it? Often, it forgets entire social and geographical groups.

        When religion is in too much power in society, a dangerous mentality floods our public sphere as well thanks to a lack of checks against inhumane religious and supposed community interests. We see it over and over again. I could say you’ve made a strong claim and thusly should support your own position, considering the religious monopoly on justice extremists have had, and the fact that there has been little proof that religion holds human life in any regard.

        Instead, I’ll point to basics of respect and human responsibility. After all, how does a religious person reconcile their religious requirements with a humane existence for society’s members? We’re still working on this one, with little result lately considering the way we’ve attempted to do it so stringently through religion. The ‘revival’ our politicians are trying to swing lately is turning everything into a mess. Ancient holy dictates neither prevent inhumanity nor cause humanity, generally speaking. Instead, they suppress much of human nature and punish human behavior, often through torture and death. . . those hypocritical actions oft’ taken in religious fervor (when more reason would prevent undue troubles).

        I could go on and on, happily, but that would be a waste of your time because the best thing you could do for yourself and society at this point in the discussion is to research and heartfully study your own question. I’ll look forward to bantering with you again though, with more specifics should you have further questions.

      • Mark Kelly says:

        The secularist has no better basis for proving what is just than empty religion has. Your opinion is no more objectively true than their tradition.

        Nor am I talking about religion as a sociological phenomenon or giving any credence to false religion that commits atrocities. I’m talking about the Creator God who is demonstrably real and who has shown us what is good. If you want to see my support for my own position, you can visit pbrd.wordpress.com.

  4. I appreciate the work you’ve done, which looks good and seems sincere. However, I fail– upon quick skimming– to see support or “proof” of your statements (you’d be the first person able to prove such statement, btw). Regardless, thanks for the lead . . . I’ll appreciate the reference points on occasion.

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