Comments for kainos http://markkelly.wordpress.com Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:51:55 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Immature minds by Admin http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/an-overweening-intellect-is-like/#comment-291 Admin Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:51:55 +0000 http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/an-overweening-intellect-is-like/#comment-291 JD Greear: 'I'm OK with not understanding everything" http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/15/i-am-ok-with-not-understanding-everything/ JD Greear: ‘I’m OK with not understanding everything” http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/15/i-am-ok-with-not-understanding-everything/

]]> Comment on No, not the Nobel Peace Prize by Admin http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/927/#comment-290 Admin Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:41:38 +0000 http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/927/#comment-290 A very special kind! Both comestible and combustible A very special kind! Both comestible and combustible

]]> Comment on No, not the Nobel Peace Prize by Ben Hoffman http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/927/#comment-289 Ben Hoffman Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:51:08 +0000 http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/927/#comment-289 Does that come with mushrooms? Does that come with mushrooms?

]]> Comment on Here God speaks Tsalagi by cherokeebydesign http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/here-god-speaks-tsalagi/#comment-287 cherokeebydesign Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:25:57 +0000 http://markkelly.wordpress.com/?p=901#comment-287 Tuhn lay nlhn gv nay luh hi Raven http://cherokeebydesign.wordpress.com/ Tuhn lay nlhn gv nay luh hi

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]]> Comment on The return of the hymn? by aplogansr http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2007/08/03/the-return-of-the-hymn-2/#comment-285 aplogansr Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:06:04 +0000 http://countercultureblog.com/?p=106#comment-285 In my earlier seasons of service as a song leader, I often felt frustrated that our pianist and congregation were quite comfortable with hymns. My church music background wasn't all that extensive; and included a large number of more contemporary praise and worship songs. Then I began taking piano lessons. Guess what I learned to play...hymns. Who says God doesn't have a sense of humor! He was actually teaching me a lesson (again). Today, one of my favorite songs to play, happens to be a hymn (Blessed Assurance) that I play with a sort of George Jones-style layered into it. I'm convinced that the old hymns have an incredible anointing on them. I hope to be able to play well enough soon to enjoy more of them. Pastor Andy Logan http://www.aplogansr.com In my earlier seasons of service as a song leader, I often felt frustrated that our pianist and congregation were quite comfortable with hymns. My church music background wasn’t all that extensive; and included a large number of more contemporary praise and worship songs. Then I began taking piano lessons. Guess what I learned to play…hymns. Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humor! He was actually teaching me a lesson (again).

Today, one of my favorite songs to play, happens to be a hymn (Blessed Assurance) that I play with a sort of George Jones-style layered into it. I’m convinced that the old hymns have an incredible anointing on them. I hope to be able to play well enough soon to enjoy more of them.

Pastor Andy Logan
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]]> Comment on ‘Liberals’ and the ‘War on Terror’ by Albert http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/liberals-and-the-war-on-terror/#comment-284 Albert Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:49:20 +0000 http://countercultureblog.com/?p=118#comment-284 You should mention the fact that in Iraq, we have found chemical facilities (which CAN make WMDs), or how Saddam WAS funding, arming, and training terrorists, or how there WAS an Al-Qaeda presence in Iraq (19,000 dead Al-Qaeda fighters in just a few years is good proof.), or how 10,000 people were killed by Saddam Hussein... Liberals say Iraq has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or our fight against Terrorism. Well, taking out a mad man--Saddam-- who was supplying terrorists is a GOOD IDEA. Liberating a nation and making it into a democracy which stands against all the values terrorists advocate IS A GOOD IDEA. Why? If you take out the major suppliers of teerrorism: Saddam, Taliban, and Iran's government--You in effect render the enemy unable to fight. When you take out their influence: Iran government, Taliban, Al-Qadea leaders, and Saddam--you in effect destroy the very logic of the enemy, and within time the movement will die out... Over all, Iran may have been a better target, but Iraq was ALSO a GOOD choice... You should mention the fact that in Iraq, we have found chemical facilities (which CAN make WMDs), or how Saddam WAS funding, arming, and training terrorists, or how there WAS an Al-Qaeda presence in Iraq (19,000 dead Al-Qaeda fighters in just a few years is good proof.), or how 10,000 people were killed by Saddam Hussein…

Liberals say Iraq has nothing to do with Al-Qaeda or our fight against Terrorism. Well, taking out a mad man–Saddam– who was supplying terrorists is a GOOD IDEA. Liberating a nation and making it into a democracy which stands against all the values terrorists advocate IS A GOOD IDEA. Why? If you take out the major suppliers of teerrorism: Saddam, Taliban, and Iran’s government–You in effect render the enemy unable to fight. When you take out their influence: Iran government, Taliban, Al-Qadea leaders, and Saddam–you in effect destroy the very logic of the enemy, and within time the movement will die out…
Over all, Iran may have been a better target, but Iraq was ALSO a GOOD choice…

]]> Comment on Obama’s meaningless words by Admin http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/obamas-meaningless-words/#comment-250 Admin Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:59:55 +0000 http://markkelly.wordpress.com/?p=703#comment-250 No, we are not left with mere opinion ... what you call faith. That is all virtually every tradition has to offer, except one. Christianity tradition alone can point to an event in history that validates the truth of its teaching. That is the significance of the resurrection. Saying we have human rights because we are human won't carry any freight. It's an empty assertion with nothing to validate it. Where does the notion of rights come from? Why wouldn't an evolutionary anthropologist regard it as convenient a fiction as the concept of God? There is an answer. And it's already been published. A long, long time ago. No, we are not left with mere opinion … what you call faith. That is all virtually every tradition has to offer, except one. Christianity tradition alone can point to an event in history that validates the truth of its teaching. That is the significance of the resurrection.

Saying we have human rights because we are human won’t carry any freight. It’s an empty assertion with nothing to validate it. Where does the notion of rights come from? Why wouldn’t an evolutionary anthropologist regard it as convenient a fiction as the concept of God?

There is an answer. And it’s already been published. A long, long time ago.

]]> Comment on Obama’s meaningless words by Christopher Earle http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/obamas-meaningless-words/#comment-249 Christopher Earle Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:38:54 +0000 http://markkelly.wordpress.com/?p=703#comment-249 That is all anyone has. Religious people have faith that they are right, I have faith that they are wrong :-). We have human rights based on being human. I do recognize that religion had more of a role in the past before we had the scientific and educational systems to comprehend things like lightning and...ermm....human rights :-). In fact, we may eventually need religion again, but from my knothole it has done little for the past 500 years but kill people and damage cultures (PLEASE don't ask me to document that, lol!) There are other alternatives to democracy and tyranny. Both democracy and tyranny are derrived from European thought. There are plenty of other valid models, but they aren't militaristic and this were crushed by what I see as an inferior socio-political system (yep, I'm one 'o THOSE guys). I have no delusions that what I think will work will work on the scale that it needs to work, so the trick is to take aspects and integrate them into the parts of our present system that work. I wish I had the answer, if I did I'd publish and retire to a Thai beach with a plate of noodles and a salted fish :-D. That is all anyone has. Religious people have faith that they are right, I have faith that they are wrong :-).

We have human rights based on being human. I do recognize that religion had more of a role in the past before we had the scientific and educational systems to comprehend things like lightning and…ermm….human rights :-). In fact, we may eventually need religion again, but from my knothole it has done little for the past 500 years but kill people and damage cultures (PLEASE don’t ask me to document that, lol!)

There are other alternatives to democracy and tyranny. Both democracy and tyranny are derrived from European thought. There are plenty of other valid models, but they aren’t militaristic and this were crushed by what I see as an inferior socio-political system (yep, I’m one ‘o THOSE guys). I have no delusions that what I think will work will work on the scale that it needs to work, so the trick is to take aspects and integrate them into the parts of our present system that work.

I wish I had the answer, if I did I’d publish and retire to a Thai beach with a plate of noodles and a salted fish :-D.

]]> Comment on Obama’s meaningless words by Admin http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/obamas-meaningless-words/#comment-247 Admin Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:59:13 +0000 http://markkelly.wordpress.com/?p=703#comment-247 You can reject all religion and religious based thinking if you want. You can believe people have the possibility of redemption if it pleases you. But it's merely your opinion. You have no basis on which to demonstrate that what you believe actually is true. You have no basis on which to demonstrate that what I believe is not true. All you have is opinion. The contradiction is that secular society has no basis on which to make judgments about what is just or unjust. We talk about democracy and human rights, but we can't even prove to ourselves why people have rights or why democracy is better than tyranny. We certainly have no basis for persuading someone who doesn't share our values. You can reject all religion and religious based thinking if you want. You can believe people have the possibility of redemption if it pleases you. But it’s merely your opinion. You have no basis on which to demonstrate that what you believe actually is true. You have no basis on which to demonstrate that what I believe is not true. All you have is opinion.

The contradiction is that secular society has no basis on which to make judgments about what is just or unjust. We talk about democracy and human rights, but we can’t even prove to ourselves why people have rights or why democracy is better than tyranny. We certainly have no basis for persuading someone who doesn’t share our values.

]]> Comment on Obama’s meaningless words by Christopher Earle http://markkelly.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/obamas-meaningless-words/#comment-246 Christopher Earle Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:32:21 +0000 http://markkelly.wordpress.com/?p=703#comment-246 I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying. However, I also reject all religion and religious based thinking, so your Bible quote is where I see your arguments crumbling. I think people have the possibility of redemption. It won't happen fast, and it won't be easy, but eventually Kim Jung Il will die, he will be replaced by his son, his son may or may not be more reasonable, and if he isn't, eventually he or his heirs will be overthrown. Obama is trying to diffuse what is looking to be like a global Crusade/Jihad. The religious loonies are looking for a fight. Note that I said "religious loonies" not "all Christians and Muslims." I think he hit the nail right on the head with is "violent minority" rhetoric. I also don't see any contradictions in the speech. Sure, if you look at what he was saying in the short term, but when you realize that in the historical sense, the U.S. is a brief blip in time, there is no contradiction. I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying. However, I also reject all religion and religious based thinking, so your Bible quote is where I see your arguments crumbling. I think people have the possibility of redemption. It won’t happen fast, and it won’t be easy, but eventually Kim Jung Il will die, he will be replaced by his son, his son may or may not be more reasonable, and if he isn’t, eventually he or his heirs will be overthrown.

Obama is trying to diffuse what is looking to be like a global Crusade/Jihad. The religious loonies are looking for a fight. Note that I said “religious loonies” not “all Christians and Muslims.” I think he hit the nail right on the head with is “violent minority” rhetoric.

I also don’t see any contradictions in the speech. Sure, if you look at what he was saying in the short term, but when you realize that in the historical sense, the U.S. is a brief blip in time, there is no contradiction.

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